[00:00:01] Speaker A: I'm Lila Ree.
[00:00:02] Speaker B: And I'm Nick B.
[00:00:03] Speaker A: Listen, we're just two single girls from the city of roses discussing all things love, lust, and perception.
[00:00:09] Speaker B: And roses are a symbol of all things beautiful about love.
[00:00:12] Speaker A: But as you know, love can get a little dirty. So we're here to talk about it.
[00:00:16] Speaker B: Dirty Roses Podcast starts now.
[00:00:19] Speaker A: Hey, I'm Lila Ree.
[00:00:20] Speaker B: And I'm Nick B.
[00:00:21] Speaker A: And welcome to Dirty Roses Podcast.
Guess what?
[00:00:25] Speaker B: I'm excited for today's show.
[00:00:27] Speaker A: Look, you've been saying excited more than I have. No, because we get to dive into the mind of some men. We get to. We get to hear what they talk about behind closed doors.
[00:00:37] Speaker B: Behind closed doors.
[00:00:38] Speaker A: You know the part where we don't get to be invited in, but we're.
[00:00:41] Speaker B: Going to be today.
[00:00:42] Speaker A: We are. We are. Yes. Because we're doing barbershop talk.
And this is actually part one of part two because we're going to do a beauty shop talk also. So it's going to be like a men's conversations versus women's conversations in two different episodes. So this will be fun. Yes. We are being joined by this illustrious man, this man of many wisdoms and worlds and entrepreneurship activities. All the things we got. The barber, the entrepreneur, the event promoter, the future podcaster, the traveler. All the things.
[00:01:23] Speaker B: All the things.
[00:01:23] Speaker A: All the things we got Uncle E in the building.
Story behind how we met Uncle E was that he actually is the promoter for the Wine on the Water. And that is the event that we heard about in Baltimore.
[00:01:40] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:01:41] Speaker A: I traveled out to the dmv, Nick B. Then gathered up a whole group of.
[00:01:45] Speaker B: Girls, a swaggle of us.
[00:01:47] Speaker A: What?
[00:01:48] Speaker B: Squaggles.
[00:01:49] Speaker A: Oh, I thought you said swallow. I said, oh, we swallowing us. Gotcha. Okay, not quite there.
[00:01:56] Speaker B: Maybe we'll get there.
[00:02:03] Speaker A: But yes. So we went out to Baltimore. We went to this event, had a VIP tent. It was a dope event, like over 3,000 people. We talked about this in our recap.
[00:02:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:02:11] Speaker A: But it was one of the funnest things that we did in a long time.
[00:02:15] Speaker B: And it was so chill. It was absolutely for the grown and sexy. It had something for everybody. The vendors were on point, the food was on point, music, everything. It was a great day.
[00:02:26] Speaker A: Yes. And. And we left lit.
[00:02:29] Speaker B: When we say we, we mean Lee.
Cuz I had to.
[00:03:18] Speaker A: I'm glad you recognize that because everybody else be like, if this bitch don't stop calling me, texting me.
[00:03:24] Speaker B: No. I will tell you, though, I did get kicked out of your event twice within the first hour.
You had this one security guy who was absolutely like, you out of here. We evidently drove down the wrong way. We just simply didn't know what we didn't know.
And he was doing his job. He was doing his job, but we absolutely got thrown out before we ever got in. And then there was another situation where I was going back to help another one of our girls get in. He's like, you, you're going the wrong way. This is already for people that have paid. And I'm like, I know he was ready to eject me again, but you already kicked me out once.
[00:04:11] Speaker A: But to be fair, they were really fun later.
[00:04:14] Speaker B: They were.
[00:04:15] Speaker A: We got some good. We got some good photos with the security guard.
It was a whole like, follow our podcast.
[00:04:51] Speaker B: They were like, sure, they did do a good job. Make sure that they come back because they're on point.
[00:04:56] Speaker A: Yes.
But it was amazing and we had a really good time. We'll be back next year. We're probably bringing more people and having more tents.
[00:05:05] Speaker B: Yes.
But let's get into some of this discussion.
[00:05:09] Speaker A: So this whole dynamic right now is because we scour social media, we get lots of input from listeners and people who follow us about our ideas or our thoughts on different topics, hot topics, themes that play out on social media on top of questions that we have that we get from people just in general that want to know about what men think.
[00:05:37] Speaker B: So, so we have a list of questions that we are going to ask you, and then we are later going to ask a set of women for salon talk. And the whole concept here is to kind of see how men think and respond to the same questions that we're going to throw at some ladies. So, of course, we are going to start with you.
[00:05:56] Speaker A: Yes, you read.
[00:06:11] Speaker B: So one of the first questions that I have off bat is, what are the most common complaints that men have as they sit down in your chair when they're talking about the old lady that. That woman back home. What is the grief?
[00:07:57] Speaker A: So that. That brings up a good point. So, like, if you're saying that they come to the barbershop and they ask these questions and they don't, but then you find out, like, through their conversation that they haven't actually had this conversation with their significant other. What is the. Do you guys all jump on board and be like, yeah, that she ain't, she ain't.
[00:08:16] Speaker B: Or do you be like, you hoe, you hoe.
[00:08:18] Speaker A: You should talk to your girl, maybe have this, you know, what's the. The direction that you guys advise this person on?
[00:08:30] Speaker B: Hell, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:09:37] Speaker A: So what I'm hearing is in the 20s, you're up, in your 30s, you're up your 40s, you like this. And in your 50s, you're like, I've learned all my good lessons and I'm a good listener and communicator. So we need to date men in our 50s is what I'm hearing.
[00:09:53] Speaker B: Listen, that's who I'm getting hit on these days by.
[00:09:57] Speaker A: I'm still getting the fuck ups.
[00:10:00] Speaker B: I'm getting Heinz 57, 57, the slow pour.
[00:10:04] Speaker A: Because you got to tap the bottom, the back end, you know, listen, tap that 57 year old man ass and be like, come on now. A little school.
[00:10:12] Speaker B: School.
[00:10:12] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying?
[00:10:14] Speaker B: Hilarious.
[00:10:16] Speaker A: So you say that they complain a lot or they come in, start. They, as you said, they start bitching. What are they bitching about?
[00:10:22] Speaker C: Her.
[00:11:05] Speaker A: Damn. She ain't believe my lies.
[00:11:09] Speaker B: Now. She didn't believe my lies. And I feel away about.
[00:11:48] Speaker A: Right guilty.
[00:11:49] Speaker B: So then especially as a barber, do you find yourself acting as a therapist? Because I feel like people come. Especially now. Listen, I can say when I go to a salon, I'm sitting down in that chair and we just start talking and she's styling my hair and it's oh, yeah, well, you know, you should do this and that. And do you find yourself more as a therapist when you sitting down with these fellas?
[00:12:09] Speaker C: It.
[00:12:52] Speaker A: Back in the 1900s.
[00:12:54] Speaker B: In the 1900s.
I mean, break that down to me because you're talking to two girls not from the area. Now I live in the D.C. area, but I am obviously not in Baltimore. So what you. What do you mean by Leary?
[00:15:14] Speaker A: So. So in other words, I would be too much for somebody from Baltimore.
That makes sense.
[00:15:29] Speaker B: So. So this actually we're kind of figuring out now maybe why love doesn't work for Lee on the, on the east coast, because it seems like maybe her energy is too high for some of the gentlemen that she's gone on dates with or met or whatever. Because I don't. Maybe that's what the issue is.
[00:15:47] Speaker A: I need to tone it down.
[00:15:48] Speaker B: Maybe she needs to tone it down. I don't know. Because.
[00:15:58] Speaker C: Someone.
I don't think you should change us.
[00:16:02] Speaker B: That just needs exactly that part. Exactly.
[00:16:06] Speaker A: Cause these f. These hoes.
Yeah, that's facts. Appreciate that. Thank you. But hot topics. What's your first hot topic that you want to dive into?
[00:16:32] Speaker B: Okay, so we're going to revisit a question, a couple questions that we asked last season when Lee and I were doing Some hot topics, and we gave our thoughts on it. And I'm sure you probably haven't heard it, but this will be great because now we want a fresh take from you. My first question to you is, what do you think about women who have had bbls or body enhancements? So from a man's perspective, do men really love those bodies or what are. What are your guys's thoughts on that body type? Because it seems like women are getting it done and they think the men's love it. And I'm just curious, what are your thoughts?
[00:18:43] Speaker A: So it's kind of like what we hear about weaves. Like, guys don't mind weaves if the weaves look natural. So you don't mind the BBL as long as it looks like a natural body.
[00:18:54] Speaker B: Okay. But so me, I, I've never worn a weave or a wig. And I've always wondered, like, when you're with your girl and you ready for that yanking and spanking, doesn't that just ruin the flow when you can't grab a good handful of hair? Because her whole.
I feel like no man wants to go in and pull out a whole head of hair.
Girl, listen.
[00:19:20] Speaker A: Tested and tried. If it's sewn in right, you good.
[00:19:24] Speaker B: I'm just saying, it beat her ass with her own hair.
[00:19:27] Speaker A: I did have a ponytail fallout one.
[00:19:29] Speaker B: Time you had a ponytail fall out.
[00:19:30] Speaker A: Because I was. I didn't have time to go get my hair done done before I went on a trip and I had a ponytail and it absolutely fell out, and.
[00:19:38] Speaker B: Y'All kept rocking anyway. With a little nublet on top.
[00:19:42] Speaker A: We just do it to the side.
[00:19:45] Speaker B: Okay. Good to know. I mean, I, I, I haven't experienced that just because I've never worn anything like that, so. But that's how I always imagined it would be, that you'd be in the middle of getting it on and just doing this with the ponytail. You know what I mean? Tossing it in a corner.
In my mind, that's just what, that's just what I assumed would happen.
[00:20:12] Speaker A: Oh, my goodness.
You don't like the, the eyelashes that, the eyelashes that do this, that have big wing eyelashes.
[00:20:34] Speaker B: Okay. What do you think about. What do men think about the baby hairs? Because I've also seen this where women are, like, doing their baby hair all the way down to their eyebrows. And that seems.
[00:20:44] Speaker A: Listen, when I was in Baltimore and I had went out to eat with someone, the waitress had the baby hairs that literally covered her whole forehead, almost touched her eyebrows, and swooped around.
[00:20:57] Speaker B: That was her whole lace front.
[00:20:58] Speaker A: And we literally were like. We could not stop looking at her. We were like. And he was in awe. He was like, I've never seen it in person. He's like, I've only seen it on social media. And we could not stop looking. And we were like, can we get. Can we get a drink?
[00:21:52] Speaker B: But she thinks you're telling her no from a dad perspective, not from guys ain't trying to see, so she can't even take you serious.
[00:22:15] Speaker A: So why do you think.
[00:22:16] Speaker B: Do you think then girls are getting their hair and lashes and all these extras done? Do you think they're doing it because they. That we think guys like it? Like, are there some guys that are like, yeah, keep doing that, or do you think that it's just for us? Like, I don't. I can't tell who. Who women are doing it for.
If guys are kind of like, it's not really it.
[00:22:38] Speaker A: I mean, okay, maybe clarification, because we hear a lot of guys said they don't. They don't like that for their woman, but they'll absolutely play with them, because we talked about that before. Like, they don't mind them as play toys or, you know, it's. It's nice to look at and play with, but for their actual significant other who they take taking home to mom or whatever, that's not what they like. So can you clarify that?
[00:23:03] Speaker C: What you, you know, don't get your wants or your needs mixed up.
[00:23:08] Speaker A: My dad used to say, so what.
[00:23:11] Speaker C: What you will settle down with and what you play with are. Are.
You know, they're along the same lines, but they're different. You know what I'm saying and whatnot. There's women that I've dated and, you know, I. I just. I. I wanted to date them, you know, maybe because of how they look.
[00:23:33] Speaker A: I was gonna say, say what you mean you want to have.
[00:24:21] Speaker B: On the subject of bringing women home and settling down, what are your thoughts on women who propose to their man for marriage? What do you think of that?
[00:25:50] Speaker A: Then the man gets to looking around at his friends like, oh, if I say, no, I'm not getting no more sex.
[00:26:01] Speaker C: You know, into the meat and potatoes of the love thing. Not the, you know.
[00:26:09] Speaker A: He done cheated on me about five times, and we stuck it out and we got five kids, but three of them ate mine. But. But I raise him. And then, you know, he. He still live with his mama, but he's saving money to buy me a house. But that's why I want to marry him. Like, all I know is, and I've.
[00:26:28] Speaker B: Said this many times on the show before, the proposals are not set up to say no. Right. Regardless of who's doing the proposing, if the man is asking or the woman, it's like, it's one of those things where it's not really designed in the moment for you to be like, no, I'm good, because you didn't. Then you're embarrassing everybody. But really, we've always thought like, a woman proposing to a man just seems bizarre. Like, it almost seems like it emasculates the man. And I'm just. But I'm curious, like, have you ever met anybody who was a guy that was proposed to where they then had the wedding? Like, what is the dynamics of the relationship?
Did you ever meet a man who. He was the one that got proposed to, meaning the girl proposed to him and they actually went through with the wedding.
[00:27:23] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:27:24] Speaker B: It fell apart during the wedding. It was like, who's wearing the dress? Who gets the veil? Okay.
Desperation and. What the.
[00:27:44] Speaker A: That's a very good way to put it. Very eloquent. What the.
[00:27:49] Speaker C: It.
[00:28:15] Speaker A: Oh, he said, oh, my God.
[00:28:17] Speaker B: Feel embarrassed for him.
Stop it.
You flipped it. You deserve better than this.
And the baby hairs by the weave, the baby hair, the lashes and redirect this whole conversation.
Okay, we are of like mind, then. We are of like mind, but we just know that we have seen these proposals on the. In, like, Internet. And. And we're just like, what is going on? What do men really think? So thank you for breaking that one down for us.
[00:30:11] Speaker A: So I did want to go back and say something because you mentioned we were talking about sex and all those things, and, you know, me being the firecracker that I am.
Is there such thing as good head?
Yes.
Just in general, like, basic ass head.
[00:30:54] Speaker C: Are. There's levels. There's. There's levels. You know what I'm saying? There are levels. You know what I mean? And just because you might be doing some of the newer tricks.
[00:31:11] Speaker A: What they call them gooch goblins.
[00:31:13] Speaker B: I don't know. But he said. Did you say something with some pineapple.
[00:31:20] Speaker C: 15? You know, you can get them.
Yeah. But you can get not good.
Which is still good because you're getting it.
[00:31:30] Speaker A: What if that's me? Oh, no.
[00:31:33] Speaker B: So the reason why this came up is because Lee and I were kind of having this conversation about how it seems that lots of guys like to throw out compliments of. Oh, yeah, you're good at this. I like this. You're amazing. Right? Lee and I are both overachievers. And so if we're going to do something, we're going to do it to the best of our ability. Right now, the. The difference here is one of us absolutely enjoys giving head. The other of us is kind of like.
[00:32:07] Speaker A: I feel like the way that I'm laughing is giving it away.
[00:32:09] Speaker B: Well, now that you said it.
[00:32:11] Speaker A: Because the other one is like. And you're. You're the.
[00:32:15] Speaker B: I wasn't that, though. Okay, so Lee loves.
[00:32:19] Speaker A: I don't say I. Good God, Jesus.
[00:32:22] Speaker B: Have fun.
[00:32:26] Speaker A: I'm a free spirit.
[00:32:28] Speaker B: She's a free spirit.
[00:32:29] Speaker A: I like to experiment.
Exactly that part. Thank you. Yes. Thank you for that clarification. Because she made me, like, to be a whole.
[00:32:52] Speaker B: She's a wordsmith.
Talking to the mic.
No, so. But really, what we were kind of trying to get out here is that it seems like compliments are constantly being thrown about. Oh, you're good. This is amazing. I love this. And we just want to know, is that just something all guys say because they're getting it in the moment, or is there really a difference between someone who performs really well and who's not? Like, is a girl who's not doing well still going to get a compliment?
There's levels, okay, but understanding you and Bobby like different things.
[00:34:33] Speaker A: And what about Ricky and Mike? Because Ricky and Mike like different things too. You know what I'm saying?
[00:34:38] Speaker B: This is what's making me sound like a wordsmith.
[00:34:40] Speaker A: God damn it.
But the other question, the other thing that was in this discussion, though, was that we talked about men actually claim to not get head as often as we think they do and that men almost prefer head over sex. I've heard this a lot.
[00:35:40] Speaker B: Even if it's lazy head. Like, I don't know if I want that gift on repeat if it's gonna be not energetic.
[00:35:49] Speaker A: Do men.
So you're like Little Caesars.
And I'm like.
[00:36:30] Speaker B: I don't want to be Little Caesars. I'm not Little Caesars. Okay.
[00:36:35] Speaker A: I don't know, but I'm like that gourmet cauliflower crust. Chicken cauliflower crust on their pizza. Lamb, Mediterranean bistro style pizza. It's fire.
[00:36:45] Speaker B: That sounds. I've never had that.
[00:36:47] Speaker A: A Mediterranean lamb pizza. Yes. And it's fire.
[00:36:51] Speaker B: Cauliflower crust.
[00:36:52] Speaker A: I mean, maybe not on color from Portland right now.
I mean, I could say I'm that Costco Sam's Club pizza. You know what I'm saying? Because that should be hitting slices.
They big. You just fold them over the juices be pouring out. I'm a Costco pizza. Come on.
[00:37:17] Speaker B: Hey.
[00:37:18] Speaker A: Oh, my God. But no, but I also heard because men have to exert themselves more during sex, so they prefer heads sometimes because it's less work.
[00:37:28] Speaker B: She called me Little Caesar's pizza.
[00:37:31] Speaker A: Are you still 6.99 hot and ready?
He's like, I'm done. Exiting stage left. I hate.
[00:38:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:38:13] Speaker A: Do. Do you think men settle? Because we talked about this too, like in sex and in relationships and just in general, do men settle?
[00:41:29] Speaker B: So we actually kind of came to that conclusion. We were. We were talking about this, and some of the previous episodes that we've done have talked about how I seem to find myself often in situations where a guy is married and unbeknownst to me and starting in a, you know, a relationship with this person, I'm not fully aware that this guy was married. And then once I find out, it's over. And so we've had these talks about, like, well, why are dudes who are married actively seeking something out of their marriage? Why not just leave their marriage? But as what you just said and kind of what we concluded, it's that it's not that they don't love who they're with. It's just that maybe it's an 80, 20 thing, you know, she's got 80% of what I'm looking for, but that 20% over there, who is interesting.
And do men really identify emotional cheating as cheating? Because we've also had that discussion as to what do you really consider cheating? And most women absolutely consider emotional cheating, the financial cheating, having a conversation that you would have with another man that you wouldn't have with your partner. And so do guys see it that the same way? Or are they like, no, if it's not physical, it's not cheating.
[00:44:02] Speaker A: But. So why is that, though? Why is it that men get so flustered or upset or overly if for them, cheating might just be that one little tiny piece of what they're missing in the relationship and there's an expectation of forgiveness or understanding. Why is it that when women cheat, it's like tenfold falling over the floor, crying, and everything else.
So basically, communication is like our theme here. So what advice would you give?
What advice would you give to. I don't know. What. What are we asking for advice in this episode?
[00:45:27] Speaker B: I don't know if we're really asking for advice as much as it is that we've just sort of appreciated kind of getting this insight.
[00:45:32] Speaker A: Yeah, I like, we always end up asking for advice but this was like a whole episode full of advice, and.
[00:45:38] Speaker B: I feel like we ran out of time to even dive deeper into some of these topics because, like, we could go on and on forever here.
[00:45:45] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. Well, Mr. Uncle E, where can people find you and what you got coming up?
[00:45:56] Speaker C: And I say me. My. My group that I'm with, you guys can look us up. The festival that they was talking about is called Wine on the Water. Baltimore. It's on IG Baltimore. You guys can look me up at uncle e1 2 on Instagram or Eric Cheam on Facebook.
I throw a monthly. I throw a monthly party with some of my guys, the Social elite. We don't have a page. It's just a monthly thing and people come out.
[00:46:28] Speaker A: That's dope.
[00:46:29] Speaker B: Listen, let me know. I'm trying to be at the next Social elite with all the men.
[00:46:32] Speaker A: We gonna be parking lot pimping.
[00:46:34] Speaker B: Be there.
Yeah, I do a lot of collaborating.
[00:46:40] Speaker C: I just love to collaborate. But I'm going to start doing some things on my own too, which is. And I already have. I have a running series called the Love It R. Okay. And I didn't do anything this summer, but I'll have something at the end of October with a love and rv. I'll show you the information.
[00:46:58] Speaker B: Okay.
There. Hopefully we'll be there.
[00:47:05] Speaker A: Maybe I fly in for a weekend again. So thank you so much. Thank you. Nick B. Where can they find you?
[00:47:10] Speaker B: Yes, so I can be found, of course, on all outlets of Dirty Roses podcast. May that be our Facebook, our Instagram, or just simply visit our website. And if you want to reach me specifically, I can be found on Instagram @nickbnickb. That's Nick with a K and Ms. Leigh Laree. Where can we find you?
[00:47:28] Speaker A: Well, you can find me in this, the Poetic justice foundation building here. Right here where our set is taking place. The Poetic justice foundation is doing all kinds of things around creating wealth in the black community. They're doing things around investments, educating, doing outreach, and actually taking action on making these things happen. So y'all head to the poeticjusticefoundation.org to learn more about their mission. See how you can donate so they can keep doing this work so we can keep using this space. But other than that, y'all can find me at Lila Re on all social media platforms. That's L E I G H L A R I E. Dirty Roses podcast on all platforms. Dirtyrosespodcast.com Leave us a review, a voicemail, catch up on all previous seasons, all the episodes that we've done so far this season. Leave us a review, get some advice, give us a crazy dating story, all of it. And we'll share it next time. All right, thanks. Bye.
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