[00:00:00] Speaker A: I'm Lila Rhee. And I'm Nick B. Listen, we're just two single girls from the city of roses discussing all things love, lust and perception. And roses are a symbol of all.
[00:00:09] Speaker B: Things beautiful about love.
[00:00:11] Speaker A: But as you know, love can get a little dirty. So we're here to talk about it. Dirty Roses podcast starts now. Hey, I'm Lila Rhee.
And pause. Because as you can see, or you might hear if you're listening, that my girl Nick B. Is not in the studio with me, but I am being joined by my amazing, my talented, our wonderful guest from season one, my hairstylist, my friend, my Instagram real buddy, you know what I'm saying? We be doing the thing, you know what I'm saying? And the wonderful curator, CEO, founder, designer, blender. I'm gonna keep going, you know what I'm saying, girl.
[00:00:52] Speaker B: I'm like all the things Milani, vegan.
[00:00:55] Speaker A: Hair care and, and body care now and body care. But yes, we got the wonderful, the amazing Miss Charlisa Shadow Box Harris.
[00:01:04] Speaker B: She's baby. I love that. B. Come on out with intro.
[00:01:08] Speaker A: Okay. Call me AI cuz I just come up with some, you know what I'm saying?
But yes. So you are going to be joining me as my guest host for several of these episodes. Maybe not all of them because, you know, she do got a job and stuff or whatever, but we do get her for pretty much the majority of the season. So I'm super excited. And we going to tap into how we're catching up from season one. Because you were on season one.
[00:01:31] Speaker B: I know. That's crazy. I can't believe we're at season seven.
[00:01:34] Speaker A: Season seven. Season lucky number seven. Seven, Seven eleven.
Seven eleven. Oh, I can't wait to she going to start crip walking in a second. We got to stop. And she will. And she will.
But. But yes. So we are on the the brink of talking about all things like wellness and being like healthy for ourselves. Like, this has been like the ongoing trend. We've been building up to it. And my girl Nick B. Is doing her gastric bypass revision, which we are so excited about because she is like on the journey to like living her best life.
[00:02:11] Speaker B: She is so serious about it too, which is like inspirational even if you're not even necessarily on that journey.
[00:02:17] Speaker A: Right.
[00:02:18] Speaker B: I feel like it's synonymous with where we all are, just about the overall improvement and seeing what changes need to be made and absolutely taking ownership over our health.
[00:02:27] Speaker A: Yeah. And she's. And thankfully she's been sharing her journey on Social media. She told the story about how she got there, which was so relatable, honestly, because a lot of people struggle. Weight loss, like, I mean that's the thing. We yo yo diets, we, we go up, we go down. Depression hits us, life hits us, kids hit us, you know, all the things.
[00:02:45] Speaker B: Perimenopause is that part.
[00:02:48] Speaker A: Everybody got perimenopause at this point. But. And so it's just life happens. And she, she did have gastric bypass which she shared and you know, like I said, happens and you know, she gained some of the weight back and she is now on the path to getting back on track, getting her health together, making sure that she is living her best mobile life. You know, she wants to elongate her life. And I think a lot of people think that this is like a cheat code, right?
And it's absolutely not like you don't understand that you have to, you have to get like healthy before the surgery. You've got to meet with psychologists and counselors to make sure that you are mentally prepared for this new life that you're taking on. Which is also why there's like a. Now don't quote me on this. I'd be quick to throw some data out there.
[00:03:30] Speaker B: No, for real.
[00:03:30] Speaker A: But we just gonna say around 50% of people probably end up gaining their weight back at least. And it's possible. People think that it's not possible when you have gastric bypass, but it actually is. Especially because how do you think you got to that point in the first place? Absolute.
[00:03:45] Speaker B: Absolutely. It takes time for your stomach to strength and if you haven't changed your patterns or changed like the relationship that you have with food or whatnot, then yeah, I could understand how it would definitely be at least 50% of your life.
[00:03:56] Speaker A: Absolutely.
So by the time that this show airs, she will have had her surgery. I know she will be on the mend. She will probably be outside at this point.
[00:04:04] Speaker B: I feel like she is. Cause the fact that I saw her at the bar the other day with the protein drink, I was like, come on. Dedication, right?
[00:04:11] Speaker A: Because I would have failed miserably. I'd have been like, absolutely.
[00:04:14] Speaker B: Go give me a double toxic sugar.
[00:04:16] Speaker A: Free skin skinny drink over my way. You know what I'm saying? But we are super excited to see that. But we are going to cheer her on, we're going to encourage y' all to follow her journey on social media to make sure that you know, you catch up with her and keep her in the loop. She can keep you in the Loop. And she. We gonna keep her in the loop, so. Yes. But Ms. Charlisa, season one, you were actually a guest with another season seven comeback guest, David Jefferson.
[00:04:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:42] Speaker A: On an episode that we talked about entrepreneurship and what it was like to date somebody with potential or. And. Or d. An entrepreneur.
[00:04:49] Speaker B: Right.
[00:04:50] Speaker A: So back then, which you were at a launch party, shared some hilarious stories about some Alpo food. And I am.
[00:04:59] Speaker B: I will.
[00:04:59] Speaker A: I never live that down.
[00:05:01] Speaker B: I never.
[00:05:02] Speaker A: We still, to this day, some days.
[00:05:04] Speaker B: I don't think you guys will ever look at dog food the same. Or sloppy joes or sloppy Joe's.
[00:05:09] Speaker A: Right.
[00:05:09] Speaker B: And I haven't had a sloppy joe since then.
[00:05:12] Speaker A: I made some the other day because my kids were like, what is a sloppy joe? And I was like, oh, childhood memory. I was like, let me make some. And then I made it. And I couldn't unsee the dog food. I just. I couldn't do it. It was. So if y' all missed it, you should go back and watch it. But we'll just give a snippet.
[00:05:25] Speaker B: Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't think I disclosed that on the episode, but I did disclose it at the launch party. And I think people have been judging me.
Not unfairly. I mean, I did it. You know what I'm saying?
[00:05:38] Speaker A: Accountability. Look, look, women being accountable, y'. All.
[00:05:40] Speaker B: You guys say that we can't be accountable. I am accountable for. For my. My decision that I made. For those. Are we going to disclose?
[00:05:48] Speaker A: Go ahead.
[00:05:50] Speaker B: Okay. So as many of you guys know, I'm a divorcee.
And prior to being divorced, I know a lot of people, like, that's why she divorced. That's why she ain't got no money. But anyways, so I dealt with a lot of infidelity in my relationship. And so my mindset was, if you are going to behave like a dog, I'm going to feed you like a dog. And I did make my ex husband some sloppy joes with Alpo.
It's not my proudest moment.
[00:06:22] Speaker A: Even our producer is laughing right now.
[00:06:26] Speaker B: It's not my proudest moment. I have grown since then, y'.
[00:06:30] Speaker A: All.
[00:06:30] Speaker B: So husband, let me. Let me get close. Husband, come get me. I'm changed. I'm a different person now.
[00:06:38] Speaker A: Dear future husband.
[00:06:39] Speaker B: Dear future husband, I still cook. I cook like Bertha with the big arms. I have retired from my culinary creativity with other substances. He did tear it up, though, so that I feel like that's a testament of how well I cook.
[00:06:56] Speaker A: I mean, listen, if anything, you could get a job as a Lead chef at a local taco place.
[00:07:02] Speaker B: Oh, I was about to say.
[00:07:03] Speaker A: I don't say no name.
[00:07:04] Speaker B: I'm just saying a humane society.
[00:07:05] Speaker A: I mean, you know what? The way they feed the animals now, they eat better than we do.
[00:07:09] Speaker B: They really do. They really do.
[00:07:10] Speaker A: They probably would turn their nose up at your sloppy Joe Alpo mix.
They probably would.
[00:07:14] Speaker B: Them things was good. I threw the barbecue sauce and everything. They was. Well, I don't know.
[00:07:18] Speaker A: Did you chop up some onions?
[00:07:19] Speaker B: Yes, yes.
I told you. I hooked up.
[00:07:24] Speaker A: He so carefully came.
[00:07:25] Speaker B: But that was the aha moment that it was time for me to end my relationship. Because when I get to see him finding myself getting great satisfaction out of doing those type of things.
[00:07:36] Speaker A: Wasn't there a steak drop at some point during that time?
[00:07:38] Speaker B: There was definitely. There was a steak drop. I done drug it on the floor.
[00:07:45] Speaker A: I'm telling y', all, I'm still on the hook for. I want to make this cookbook, like, the world's best revenge, Charlisa's cookbook. And it'd be all the things.
[00:07:56] Speaker B: You gonna put my name out there like that. You just gonna just go ahead and just like, why I gotta be attached to. Because what's gonna happen?
[00:08:02] Speaker A: But I put my name in there too. Like, okay, okay. We'll spell it with your name and my name.
[00:08:05] Speaker B: I still want to one of these days, find my person.
So I feel like.
[00:08:11] Speaker A: I mean, Beyonce had everybody singing Single Ladies, and she was whole married. So, I mean, you could.
[00:08:16] Speaker B: That is true. That is true. Yeah. But, you know, I think there are some things that are hard to undo, and I very much feel like there are those moments where it just lets me know how much I love you. Because had it been anybody else, I would have never divulged. I have never divulged that information.
[00:08:32] Speaker A: But she loved me. But she said it in a room full of people.
[00:08:34] Speaker B: I did, but I had to make sure. I'm like, listen, we're here to be transparent. We are here to let it be known. Like, some of my most not proud moments.
[00:08:43] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:08:44] Speaker B: And that was definitely.
[00:08:45] Speaker A: And we've grown.
[00:08:46] Speaker B: We've grown. That was a long time ago. That was like 15 years ago.
[00:08:50] Speaker A: Oh, wow.
[00:08:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Wait a minute.
[00:08:53] Speaker A: It was last week.
[00:08:54] Speaker B: Over. No, no, it was at least 10 years ago.
[00:08:57] Speaker A: Okay. Okay.
[00:08:58] Speaker B: So I definitely. And I just feel like being done wrong sometimes and being in, like, this wrong headspace will bring out the ugliness in you.
[00:09:08] Speaker A: That's facts.
[00:09:08] Speaker B: Or the creativity. The culinary creativity.
And that's what it is.
[00:09:13] Speaker A: But it's because we have changed. You know, you become an attractor by good energy, good peace and all the things.
[00:09:19] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:09:20] Speaker A: So when done wrong, we don't feed dog food. We just turn the other cheek and keep it pushing.
[00:09:25] Speaker B: Exactly. Because my biggest now my. My biggest talent is I will block and walk away so fast. Oh, and she will I mid conversation.
[00:09:33] Speaker A: That's how we met. She blocked me unintentionally.
We just gonna tell it all while we here. Because we here. It's like. It's like that moment like I'm like, I got you now, bitch.
[00:09:46] Speaker B: And it's definitely something we can laugh about now. Like, remember that time you blocked me?
[00:09:50] Speaker A: You blocked me, then unblocked me, then block me again.
[00:09:52] Speaker B: And then I have to admit, like, hey, so by the way, I did block you. You were a casualty of your associations. It was like a RICO sweep. You know how I am. Look, anybody associated with people who I don't like, it's a RICO sw.
Like we bout to young money. Everybody. Everybody got.
[00:10:11] Speaker A: I will say this though.
What had happened. I won't say what happened. But I did partake in the conversation of what happened on social media, unknowingly that it was her. And when I realized it was about her, I went back and deleted my comment. Cause I was like, oh no, we're not talking about her.
[00:10:25] Speaker B: I had already seen it.
[00:10:27] Speaker A: But at that point she'd already seen. She probably assumed I knew who it was. I didn't know that they were talking about her in a negative way. And then. But I also.
She found. I didn't even know she blocked me.
I was like, oh, I thought we were friends already. She was like, so. So about that.
[00:10:43] Speaker B: So about that. Yes. But look at us now.
[00:10:46] Speaker A: We're besties.
[00:10:46] Speaker B: We're still together.
[00:10:48] Speaker A: Me, you will never part monkey dada.
Why is that the go to phrase for when friends are like really friend friends. That's a sad part of the movie though. It is really.
[00:11:00] Speaker B: But black folks are so unserious. I think even the things that are supposed to be sad, we don't.
[00:11:05] Speaker A: Cuz I still laugh at what's left got to do with it.
[00:11:07] Speaker B: I crack up, girl. I crack up. That the limo scene is the saddest thing.
[00:11:13] Speaker A: Come here to see me. I.
[00:11:14] Speaker B: Exactly. Is that all you got, Ike? I'm telling you, I want a. A white the song pantsuit. Just because.
[00:11:21] Speaker A: We should do a Tina Turner night.
[00:11:22] Speaker B: We should.
[00:11:23] Speaker A: Our favorite scenes. We should. Okay, okay. We gonna get back on track.
[00:11:26] Speaker B: Okay. Right, right, right, right, right. My bad.
[00:11:27] Speaker A: That's how you can tell we friends. Okay, listen.
So since season one, you had talked about the difficulties in dating the entrepreneur. You talked about how you've kind of came into your femininity and being your best self and how you navigate taking time off and being intentional with the men that you choose to entertain.
So how has that been since season one?
[00:11:54] Speaker B: I'm still on this journey. I definitely feel like I am even better with prioritizing me because I think I was in that beginning part of it.
[00:12:02] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:12:03] Speaker B: At the time that I was on season one, I was at that part of kind of, you know, I think I was doing some. Some testing. Like, is this really my. My happy place?
[00:12:11] Speaker A: Gotcha.
[00:12:12] Speaker B: So I think the problem is now I am so in a place of peace with myself that it makes dating even harder than it did at that time. Because I think entertaining people who I probably even would have, you know, at that time whenever I was still like, is that a healthy relationship? Is that this, that and the other? Or is this person, you know, celebrating me the way that I need them to?
You know, I think I now have had enough investment in myself. She's like, I don't want that now. I say, yeah. Like, I mean, even my therapist, she was like, you know. Cause I strongly urge people to, you know, partake in therapy. It doesn't mean that there's necessarily something wrong. It just means that you.
[00:12:56] Speaker A: It's preventive care.
[00:12:57] Speaker B: Yeah, it's preventive care. And it's, you know, we're evolving, I think, especially as women and just people who are adulting. We're evolving constantly. So you need someone to help you unpack.
[00:13:07] Speaker A: Right.
[00:13:07] Speaker B: To get to these next levels. And she's like, you know, right now the people who you are trying to date are not competing with other people. They're competing with how comfortable you are with yourself.
And that's hard because I love me. I love my own space.
[00:13:24] Speaker A: Yeah. So.
[00:13:27] Speaker B: Like I said, husband, come get me. I got my spend a night bag ready. I've got my food ready, you know, because I will cook for you. Not dog food. Okay.
[00:13:38] Speaker A: But.
And our spend a night bag, travel size. Travel size body bag.
[00:13:44] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:13:45] Speaker A: Which you just launched.
[00:13:47] Speaker B: Business is great. Business is evolving. Business is great.
I just don't have anyone to share those wins with right now, but it's hard.
[00:13:55] Speaker A: But we shared some lotion earlier.
[00:13:56] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:13:57] Speaker A: Even our producer got another action this lotion. So what do we have today? Our feet. We're going to do some feature products and she's going to be Our guest host, she just did a relaunch and. Yes. So let's talk about.
[00:14:07] Speaker B: That was quite the process. So. Yeah. So I have. Since we've seen each other, I've evolved more into body care because, you know, my goal has always been to provide sustainable and responsible products.
So the hair care products are vegan and now we have our body care products, which our highlight product is the Golden Indulgence body cream, which I absolutely love. It's a kupuasu butter.
[00:14:32] Speaker A: Yeah, what she said.
[00:14:34] Speaker B: So it's really similar to like cocoa butter. Cuckoo kachu.
But I love this especially because of the fact that it's super hydrating, you know, for the body.
[00:14:46] Speaker A: We.
[00:14:46] Speaker B: We did put it on our hands. That little part in your little thumb there, that's always ashy and make sure that you are good to go. And it smells amazing. Yeah. And the cuticles. Yes. And I just love these products because I feel like bath time and, you know, my self care time is so crucial. That is like the highlight of my day.
[00:15:05] Speaker A: That's part of my self care routine. Like, okay, so we talk about self care a lot and self care. To me, I love. I do. Like, you know, I'll journal, I'll do the manifestations and all those things. But for me, it's really like intentionally caring for my body in different ways that nurture. Because I have a life coach, I have friends, we talk and do all those things. So sitting with my thoughts isn't really my thing, per se. But when I'm like touching my body and I'm caring for myself and I'm.
[00:15:33] Speaker B: Like, you touching on your body.
[00:15:36] Speaker A: Hold on. Y' all heard about my basket? These products ain't for that, though, just so you all know, because you might get something.
But what I say is because I do love your products. I really do. She's got the scrubs, the all the things. And so like, I was in the shower today. I was even like, okay, self care. I was like, I ain't got no sleep last night, prepping for the podcast recording. And I was like, okay, this is my moment to, like, take a deep breath, let the water hit me, smell good, get out the shower. I got the lotion, the body creams, I got the oils, like, all the things that I layer. Because, you know, we layer stuff.
[00:16:06] Speaker B: Yes, I do.
[00:16:07] Speaker A: And so it really is. It's an amazing part. And if you go to her website, you can use code Lee L E I G H get you a little additional save beans, you know what I'm saying? You know, hook it up. Hook it up.
[00:16:16] Speaker B: Well, the shower is also such a ground for me that, you know, I do like different grounding exercises. So, you know, sometimes we may go out and we may touch a couple trees, we may touch some grass. You know what I mean? But for me, like, it's also shower time.
[00:16:29] Speaker A: She likes to work her toes in water.
[00:16:34] Speaker B: Little smokies and things, but definitely shower time. That's when I feel like. And that's even what one of your guests spoke about, you know, is like sometimes the shower time may be our. Our release is whenever we're.
[00:16:47] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Crying shower.
[00:16:49] Speaker B: Listen, the shower don't seem some things that part. Okay.
[00:16:52] Speaker A: But when karaoke and crying. It's all in the shower.
[00:16:54] Speaker B: Yeah, it's all in the shower, exactly. But there's also that moment. It's my. The way that I start my day is that investment in self when we're pouring into people throughout our day is so. I think so many people get overwhelmed with how much they have to do for others because they've negated how much they need to do for themselves.
[00:17:12] Speaker A: That part.
[00:17:13] Speaker B: And so one thing I don't play about is me. And I don't play about my own self care, which was why it just made sense to evolve more into the body care. Because these were things that I was already doing for me personally. You know, I love me a good scrub. I love making sure that I exfoliate. I love me a good cream and a little oil back. You know what I'm saying? You gotta follow with the oil back.
[00:17:33] Speaker A: Little shot oil.
Now listen. Yeah, them oils work good for massages. They do. I didn't gave a few with some.
[00:17:43] Speaker B: It also works as a lubricant. If you need.
[00:17:45] Speaker A: Shut the front door.
[00:17:47] Speaker B: But did I tell too much?
[00:17:49] Speaker A: Let me find out something.
I'm just like, hey, baby, hold on. I'm gonna slide on like some ketchup on a hot dog. Like, come on, just slide it on me.
[00:18:00] Speaker B: Just slide it on.
I'm just saying, if you find yourself in a crunch, just know that the body care does what it says.
[00:18:08] Speaker A: We're gonna have to white label that for a second. Call it something else.
[00:18:11] Speaker B: Listen, the dirt, the dirty.
[00:18:14] Speaker A: The dirty. The dirty Earl dirty oil, the dirty rose oil.
[00:18:19] Speaker B: I mean, is. It don't taste that good. I shouldn't know that either. But yo, what have you been doing.
[00:18:25] Speaker A: With your body care products?
[00:18:27] Speaker B: Can we edit this part out?
[00:18:28] Speaker A: We cannot.
[00:18:29] Speaker B: Oh, okay.
[00:18:29] Speaker A: We're gonna keep the.
[00:18:30] Speaker B: I'm just gonna be quiet. I'm Just gonna go and be quiet.
[00:18:32] Speaker A: Well, since me, but yes.
So self help, wellness, all the good things.
[00:18:40] Speaker B: Right.
[00:18:42] Speaker A: I would say since I've last seen you on this show all the time. But I have been really diving into my life coaching, and that has been, like, a really beautiful journey I've been on right now. Me not giving life coach, but, like, receiving. Right. Like, I have a life coach. I don't have a therapist because I've done a whole lot of therapy. And while I do highly encourage that, because if you haven't addressed your past, you haven't. You can't move forward. I've addressed my past a lot in a lot of different ways. The life coaching. And she was on season. I want to say season five.
[00:19:13] Speaker B: Four.
[00:19:13] Speaker A: Four or five.
[00:19:14] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:19:15] Speaker A: But she came on. Oh, it was season four. Because you were there. Yep.
But she came on Coach Kathy. Shout out to coach Kathy. Because she done got my life together.
But it's more about how you deal with the present time, how you can handle things and situations that come up right now and how you can move forward.
So we're not really addressing past. We know what your triggers are. You know, where it stems from, you know, when it happens. So she helps me deal with when it happens. How do I press forward. Yeah. And so that's been a really big part of where I'm at right now. I'd be telling people I'm like, I'm at peace. I am so much at peace.
[00:19:49] Speaker B: As a friend I see it. I just. I'm not saying he was a mess or nothing, but, you know, I just feel like whenever you see that evolution, you know, I definitely see you being able to tackle life circumstances because it doesn't mean. That's the thing that people get twisted to.
[00:20:05] Speaker A: Doesn't mean life in.
[00:20:06] Speaker B: Exactly. But it's how we're evolving and how we handle it. And I definitely feel like it isn't for the both of us. Not like tossing us up and flipping us up.
[00:20:16] Speaker A: That part. Although we do like to get tossed.
[00:20:18] Speaker B: We do like to get tossed. We were just talking about that too. We want her getting folded like a lawn chair.
[00:20:25] Speaker A: But yes, like a fitted blanket.
Just all in the mix. Oh, my God. Okay. Back. But yes. So I. I've been telling people, like, I. I'm really like. Like I said, I'm in the place of peace. I have been attracting things and things have been falling into place for me. And I was a firm believer of energy and, like, all that stuff. Right, right. But it didn't feel like it was happening for me. Like, I felt like, you know, like when, you know, when you feel like you're doing the work.
Yeah, it sounds good. Everybody is a trending word. It's a thing.
But when it actually happens, it's like that light bulb switch hits and then you're like, oh, this is what it feels like. And then it just all falls into place. So I have been in a good place. I have not. I've had some moments, but definitely not balled up in a fetal position in the corner crying with a bottle of Jack Daniel.
[00:21:14] Speaker B: You remember your birthday a few years ago? Oh, gosh.
And how. Because you know, we're both Sagittarius and you know how we get. This is our season and then we get to this point place that we are like, we don't like peopling so much around our birthday, but I also have noticed that we have done so good at not succumbing to that.
Do you remember a few years ago, like, you had to like, almost get dragged to just even celebrate your birthday?
[00:21:44] Speaker A: Oh, I forgot about that one. I thought you meant that when we went to the. The. The. The music.
[00:21:49] Speaker B: No, no, no, no, no.
Before that you had to. To get kidnapped in order to even celebrate you. So you being intentional about celebrating you.
[00:21:59] Speaker A: I see it, by the way, the way that things are going. This episode is going to air on my birthday.
[00:22:04] Speaker B: Hello.
[00:22:05] Speaker A: So awesome. Happy early birthday to me and happy belated birthday to you.
[00:22:12] Speaker B: I like gifts. I like walks in the park. I like walks to banks.
[00:22:16] Speaker A: We really like walks to banks. We like walks to banks.
[00:22:19] Speaker B: Deposit slip with tax deposit slips with your money.
[00:22:21] Speaker A: You know that part.
[00:22:22] Speaker B: Okay, all.
[00:22:23] Speaker A: All of that.
But yeah. So anyways, any dates since season? I mean, clearly since.
[00:22:29] Speaker B: I've definitely.
I have had some days, so thankfully I haven't had. Remember the date that I was talking about on the episode when I got invited to the game that he wasn't invited to.
So I haven't had any of those type of dates, which is great. Made some improvement. We have definitely made some improvements. Improvement. I still feel like there's a dynamic and I think it's just trending right now. There is a dynamic of.
It still is weaponized for us to be strong women. It's still weaponized for us to be like, independent women.
[00:23:02] Speaker A: Right.
[00:23:03] Speaker B: And, and, and trust me, I'm definitely in this element because I have to. Because, like, who would. Who's gonna do it if I don't?
[00:23:10] Speaker A: Right.
[00:23:11] Speaker B: But it does not mean that I don't have room for someone to come in and be like, you know what? You. You've been big dog long enough.
Listen, I want to be little Chihuahua. I don't want to be pit bull.
[00:23:20] Speaker A: No, right, right.
[00:23:20] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? I want to just be able to sit back and, you know, be like, la, la, la. And just be able to let somebody leave. I do know how to listen. I do know how to. But, you know, it does. You. You got to know what you talking about. That part.
[00:23:34] Speaker A: You got to be that. You got to be that man to.
[00:23:36] Speaker B: Be the man 100% without having to minimize me. Because that is definitely what I feel that I do.
[00:23:42] Speaker A: Definitely been that conversation. Yeah.
[00:23:44] Speaker B: Yeah. That's what I. I just feel like in the dating world has been something I'm still trying to figure out.
[00:23:49] Speaker A: It's like the biggest thing that men are attracted to when it comes to you is like your ambition, your drive, your success, your personality. And then when you get in the relationship, they're like, okay, now that I got you, all that's mine. Don't do it for nobody else. It doesn't matter if it hurts your business.
[00:24:04] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:24:04] Speaker A: And that's crazy because you are a brand. You are your business.
[00:24:07] Speaker B: Right.
[00:24:08] Speaker A: And that's how they most of the times find you. Honestly. Yeah.
[00:24:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Because, you know, I don't be outside. I'm not even a real person.
[00:24:15] Speaker A: This is all AI right now.
We about to get flagged.
[00:24:18] Speaker B: You created me on Chat GPT.
[00:24:21] Speaker A: That'd be a dope ass movie.
[00:24:22] Speaker B: Right.
[00:24:24] Speaker A: Producer, make a mental note of that. We're gonna add that to my movie repertoire. We making movies.
[00:24:28] Speaker B: We got documentation, though, that this was our idea. But anyway, they want a me until they get a me.
[00:24:36] Speaker A: Me. Yeah.
[00:24:37] Speaker B: Is I feel like what my theme has been.
[00:24:38] Speaker A: And it feels like it's like a conquest more than the actual courting.
[00:24:42] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:24:43] Speaker A: And I've run into that a lot. Like, I tell people the reason why I don't date in Portland is because I never dated in Portland. Yeah. So nobody has, like a history with me. Okay, well, now that I've been outside, we ain't gonna talk about it. Don't nobody know them.
[00:25:02] Speaker B: Right.
[00:25:03] Speaker A: But for the most part, you could probably ask anybody about me. And there's not gonna be a man that you can find that's dating me that has smashed or whatever. And so it becomes like a conquest for somebody to be like, oh, there's an untapped woman in Portland that none of my homies have tapped. Like, I'm about to get that. And I'm not, you know, I'm not flexing that. I'm like all that. But I'm desirable.
[00:25:23] Speaker B: You are definitely desirable. I would hit it.
[00:25:26] Speaker A: Oh, bitch.
[00:25:26] Speaker B: I would hit it. Yeah, don't kick.
[00:25:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay, show over. We're done.
Dirty roses for another reason.
But, no, but, like, I do find that, like, in my own city, at least, it becomes a conquest. Like, it's a challenge. Like, it's like, I want to capture that.
[00:25:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:43] Speaker A: And then once they do or have even. Even the inkling of the opportunity. Yeah. I find that they quickly be like, no, I'm good. Like, I've had this one guy to.
[00:25:52] Speaker B: Even see that you're like, matching the. The attraction. And then once they get the attention.
[00:25:58] Speaker A: They'Re like, ha, ha, I got you. And then they're like, and I declined you.
[00:26:02] Speaker B: Right.
[00:26:03] Speaker A: And then they want put that on your podcast.
You know how many people I get?
[00:26:06] Speaker B: You know what I was going to say you just touched on another subject though, because for a lot of them, either they're afraid that they're going to be featured on the podcast, or they almost be doing in order to.
[00:26:19] Speaker A: To get on the pod.
Both them situations happen. So I had one guy who I was really vibing with, he actually met through a mutual friend who hated on me. And I ain't going to say no names, but he knows who he is.
Dirty dog. You dirty Neville.
But what I will say is I was vibing with his friend and we were joking around, and he was like, oh, you better be careful. You're gonna end up on her podcast or on a social media. And I thought he was joking. Because I do blast a few people. And I will say this, I will be very open and clear. I do blast people. If you are disrespectful, blatantly, you're inappropriate. You don't heed to when I say no, like, not in a grape kind of way.
[00:26:57] Speaker B: It's a cautionary tale, which is making sure that we're letting other people take care.
[00:27:01] Speaker A: Y' all seen some of my posts? The inboxes be inboxing. And when they get outrageous, it's a good content. You know what I'm saying? But anybody, right? Exactly. But anybody. And even when I do that, you still don't know who it is. I don't put no names, no photos, nothing. You just see that what they say.
[00:27:16] Speaker B: Yeah, you never ousted anything.
[00:27:17] Speaker A: Never.
And so when it's somebody that I'm like truly, genuinely interested in, that's very private. Even if it goes left I still talk about it on social media.
[00:27:25] Speaker B: Right.
[00:27:25] Speaker A: So I.
[00:27:26] Speaker B: We just talk about it in our chat.
[00:27:28] Speaker A: She knows everything. But.
But to say that. Was that when my friend or the person that I said acquaintance. At this point. Yes, you've been boiled down to an acquaintance.
[00:27:38] Speaker B: That's nice.
[00:27:38] Speaker A: When he had mentioned that you're going to be like, oh, don't, you know, going to put on our podcast, I thought he was joking because he knows what kind of stuff that I get, Right?
[00:27:45] Speaker B: Absolutely. And he knows your integrity. I think that's the biggest thing. Like, to make it seem as if you're messy or that part divulge things that are not supposed to be divulged. Yeah, that's not what. And you're also not dating to create content.
[00:27:58] Speaker A: That part.
[00:27:58] Speaker B: That's the other part of it too. To make it seem like, oh, I'm just out here just like doing case studies.
[00:28:03] Speaker A: Right. Like, it's a show. It's a show topic. No, that's not what it is.
So the friend and I kind of ignored it, laughed it off, whatever. Then later on, we had kind of made plans and then he just kind of just disappeared on me and stopped to communicate. And I was like, what happened? So finally did get in touch with him and he was like, yeah, you know, my homeboy said that, you know, you really be putting people on blast. And I'm just not like that. I don't like messy stuff.
And I was like.
[00:28:27] Speaker B: That was a sucker move, though. Like, if we can, like, just go ahead. Like, I was trying to be nice about it, but I'm like, you, here's my thing. If I feel like he knew he was on some bullshit.
So he already was like, this is somebody who is going to call me on my stuff, you know, Whereas, like, with someone else, I think he already knew what. He can't get away with that part. That's what I really think it is. So I feel like it was a combination of, yeah, old boy was definitely hating.
[00:28:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:58] Speaker B: But he also was just probably like.
[00:29:00] Speaker A: Oh, if she gonna do that, I'm probably am gonna do some and get on her podcast, basically. Yeah.
[00:29:04] Speaker B: Like, when you know, you ain't.
[00:29:05] Speaker A: I'll be listening to you too. And he did prove that. Right. Like I would say. So the acquaintance later. And I talked about this later because I was like, you was a real janky for that. You could have told me, you know, whatever. And he said he was protecting me from him.
So. Anywho, later down the line, the little buddy absolutely was weird as Hell, absolutely. And like, did some like, weird. Like, like, we're moved. So I was like, okay.
[00:29:29] Speaker B: He was probably on coke like everybody else.
[00:29:30] Speaker A: You know what, though? High key. I wouldn't doubt it.
[00:29:33] Speaker B: Is this considered to be slander to somebody?
[00:29:35] Speaker A: We didn't say no names. We didn't say.
[00:29:36] Speaker B: Okay, okay, cool, cool. Because I think he was. But anyway, listen.
[00:29:40] Speaker A: But then the other part was. So we talked about that. But then the other part was people that want to be on the podcast. So we talked about. I talked about this with Nick B. On the previous episode where I had a stalker. Like, oh, I call him a stalker. But it was somebody I'd actually gone on a date with.
Was out of the country date, by the way. So step your game up, people.
I went to Mexico.
[00:29:58] Speaker B: She got a passport.
[00:29:59] Speaker A: I have a passport and I do take flight out dates.
[00:30:02] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:30:03] Speaker A: But. But he sent me flowers and balloons to my house, which was, which was crazy because I never gave him my address.
[00:30:11] Speaker B: Right.
[00:30:11] Speaker A: But when I called him out on it, he was like, ah, just. Just take them flowers. You like it and go ahead and put me on the podcast. Like, it was like he was doing it to get attention and so I had to like, stop feeding into the. Why are you doing this kind of stuff? Cuz he ran me. Send me money.
I mean, I'm gonna take it, but you know, you just. Weird. But Right. It was like a thing. So there are definitely men out there who are like trying to avoid being blasted or trying to get attention.
[00:30:35] Speaker B: Yeah. They're seeking relevance.
[00:30:37] Speaker A: We're looking for the guy in the middle. The guy that doesn't want either of those things. Right, right.
[00:30:41] Speaker B: I want somebody who, if I can, I list what I'm looking for.
[00:30:45] Speaker A: Girl. Yes, Go ahead. Let's get your list.
[00:30:46] Speaker B: I need somebody who is going to be a good videographer and a good content creator for me. I need somebody to help create this content. I need you to be my biggest fan and be okay with, you know what I mean? Like, me kind of being in the front. It's not a big me little you thing.
[00:31:04] Speaker A: Right.
[00:31:05] Speaker B: But what I've also had problems with were people who I felt like was competing with me on who you know, I mean, because at the end of the day, I'm going to celebrate you just as much as I want you to celebrate me. Because I don't want anyone who doesn't have anything going on for themselves. Right.
[00:31:21] Speaker A: That part.
[00:31:21] Speaker B: But I need someone who is okay with us, like, elevating each other.
[00:31:26] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely.
[00:31:27] Speaker B: Be okay. Like this Is how I done learned a couple dudes really don't like me with the pictures they take. You don't like me because why is it. Because why would you take that picture? Why would you record that footage right there when my mouth is all wide open? I look crazy, my hair look wild. Like you. You're a hater, low key. So that's the thing I need.
[00:31:48] Speaker A: And you want me to be unattractive going.
[00:31:49] Speaker B: You want me to be unattractive to other people. Exactly.
[00:31:52] Speaker A: That's crazy. I do love me. I've been on a few dates with, with people who, who understood what I did assignment. Yeah, they understood. And so, like, food will come. They'll wait for me to take pictures of the food and they'll be like, oh, go ahead. They'll put the drink out and be like, okay, ready for the boomerang?
[00:32:06] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:32:06] Speaker A: Like, and I love it because you understand me. You get it. You're not offended? Because I do recognize that having your phone out all the time is kind of disrespectful. But I appreciate that, you know, that I'm gonna do my little thing and I'm gonna put my phone down.
[00:32:19] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:32:19] Speaker A: And if you're prepared for it, we ain't got to make a big deal of it. It takes less than five seconds and we're good. And I love that level of support, understanding, and even care about my brand and encouraging it. Like, that's exactly.
[00:32:32] Speaker B: That's how I knew I didn't like the last person I went on a date with when we were at dinner. Now, keep in mind, this is. I choose places that are taking a big seat. I choose places that are picturesque, that are for great content. It's gonna have great backdrop or whatever. Or this one in particular, it had like a certain cuisine that was like very recordable.
[00:32:53] Speaker A: Right before you finish, I will say this. Like, granted, those do make good content moments, but those are actually good vibes. And that's a, that's a self care type of thing. But go ahead.
[00:33:00] Speaker B: There we that part too.
[00:33:01] Speaker A: I do.
[00:33:02] Speaker B: Exactly. We love that, right?
[00:33:03] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:33:04] Speaker B: Because it's, you know, these are the ways that I date myself.
[00:33:07] Speaker A: That part.
[00:33:07] Speaker B: I've been dating myself a lot more lately, but whatever. Different conversation.
But the time that I allowed someone to be on the other side of the table, he just kept making these negative statements about like, for instance, when it would come, like, oh, you want me to move? Oh, I forgot you're a content creator. I forgot you're an influencer. Like, you know, and it was In a very negative way to where it almost made it seem silly that this is how I get down. Not only that, but the majority of the things that I record, I don't share that part because they're for myself.
[00:33:39] Speaker A: That part.
[00:33:39] Speaker B: You know what I mean? I go back and we look at our camera roll and we're like, oh, that was so fun. You.
Because I'm also that person that I believe in memories and I believe in moments and things like that, and we.
[00:33:50] Speaker A: Have a good balance of living life and capturing the moment.
[00:33:52] Speaker B: Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. So that's. Yeah, that's. I mean, I just want someone who is a good content creator and someone who isn't.
It doesn't need to be a competition over who is important and, you know, just celebrates. I also need somebody I can be funny with. Like, you know, we were talking about before, who's gonna bring out that funny side because everybody knows we play way too much that part, you know, And I need somebody who understands that. Yes, I'm probably gonna be funnier than you. Most likely. I gotta be funnier than you.
[00:34:21] Speaker A: That was very Sagittarius of you.
I already know I'm gonna be funnier.
[00:34:24] Speaker B: I already know I'm probably gonna be the funniest person you met.
You know what I mean? And be okay with that, you know?
[00:34:30] Speaker A: Right, Right.
[00:34:31] Speaker B: So, yeah, I love it. I love it.
[00:34:33] Speaker A: Well, with all that being said, I'm smacking mics. I got my first season.
All that said last season. Now we know we do this season one or the episode one of every season is a recap.
[00:34:44] Speaker B: Is a recap one.
[00:34:45] Speaker A: And so we talk about our favorite moments from last season. So since Nick B. Isn't here, I know I gotta do all the talking because I was there and you weren't there, but. Okay, so we gonna step into this like last season. So go ahead, ask your question.
[00:34:57] Speaker B: So what was your favorite? Should I say this? Like, I don't want anyone to feel slighted, but what was your, like, highlight moment or your favorite moment from last season?
I have a couple of my favorites.
[00:35:08] Speaker A: I'm like, okay, so first of all, asking me my favorite is, like, the worst question ever, because I'm very indecisive. Except for when it comes to colors. I love red. And that's about it.
[00:35:16] Speaker B: Boom.
[00:35:16] Speaker A: Bat bow.
But there were favorite moments from every episode that I really. That really stood out. But for me, there were certain things, like the episode with Reggie from Chocolate Dope, when that man said that he thought that wearing a condom wants to sterilize the vagina. Yo, listen.
Not contain myself.
And that went on, like, we put it on social media and it was like conversations in every single group.
[00:35:43] Speaker B: Right? Yo, he's okay. He is hands down funny. And can we just really quick take a moment to let it be known that we are sending a big hug to our friend Reggie, because right now he is definitely going through his own journey and his own transition right now. And we're sending him all the love.
[00:35:59] Speaker A: And all the hugs and he says hi to everybody because we've talked him a few, few times. And, you know, if you follow him on social media, you'll know, you know what's going on and you'll be sending his positive energy, too.
[00:36:09] Speaker B: Yeah. And the fact that he still plays too much even while he. What he's going through right now. Because I just texted him the other day and I was like, bro, he's out of pocket. He is really out of pocket.
[00:36:19] Speaker A: I went to visit him and I met his mom, who was. I see where he gets it from, clearly. But when I tell you that man was dog laughing. I mean, could not stop. And the nurse came in and she was like, so I'm gonna need y' all to knock this off because he.
[00:36:34] Speaker B: Can'T handle disrupting people.
[00:36:36] Speaker A: He was. He had me rolling. I was like, I love that no matter what, you're in good spirits. And that's dope.
[00:36:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's part of the. Of the journey, part of the healing.
[00:36:44] Speaker A: Absolutely. But the fact that he thought that condoms sterilize vaginas and the fact that he thought this lean all the way up until he was 40, I was.
[00:36:51] Speaker B: Gonna say, yeah, he was at a big old age.
[00:36:53] Speaker A: He was a big old age.
[00:36:54] Speaker B: Already had one and was already a parent.
[00:36:56] Speaker A: That part. But I'm like, I guess I could understand why you would think that, because as outside as he is.
[00:37:03] Speaker B: Right.
[00:37:03] Speaker A: I guess only having one miseducation in our.
Yeah, very much.
[00:37:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:08] Speaker A: But, you know, the luck of the draw or the luck of the pullout, I don't know.
[00:37:11] Speaker B: He was just shooting blanks. He just got lucky.
[00:37:15] Speaker A: He gonna kill us when we see this episode.
[00:37:17] Speaker B: We love you.
[00:37:18] Speaker A: We love you. Oh, my God. But I also.
I love the episode with B Wall.
[00:37:24] Speaker B: When he is a character.
[00:37:25] Speaker A: Oh, my God. But I love how much, I love a. How he talked about his journey from being from a two parent home with grandparents that were involved and all the things, and how he still chose a bad path, but they loved on him so much that he got Back on track. And how he uses that to love on his children. And if you follow, like, his son's in college now.
[00:37:46] Speaker B: Amazing dad.
[00:37:47] Speaker A: Oh, my goodness.
[00:37:47] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:37:48] Speaker A: And his little girl is like his twin, which is so cute.
[00:37:50] Speaker B: I know. We love it. But just to see that in the way that he is normalizing.
[00:37:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:37:55] Speaker B: Black fatherhood.
[00:37:57] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:37:57] Speaker B: Because they're. They especially right now. Right. I think with this political. In this racial climate, it's so easy to look at men that look like him and just try to identify him as just, you know, like, they already disown him. He's an amazing businessman. He's an amazing father. He is so inspirational to people.
[00:38:13] Speaker A: That part.
[00:38:13] Speaker B: You know that part. I love how he's so transparent about his journey.
[00:38:17] Speaker A: Me too. And. And while we talk about his positivity, his. His story about his most toxic thing he's ever done was just goddamn hilarious.
[00:38:24] Speaker B: Okay, remind me again.
[00:38:26] Speaker A: He got mad at this girl and threw a cinder block through her car window. And. And then dry all the windows. Not just. But it was one cinder block. So he threw it, reached in, grabbed it, and did it again for every single window.
Not only that, but then he had her on speakerphone while he did it. No, listen. Okay, you can't make that up. So I was like, so. You know, he's ingenious in his own.
[00:38:50] Speaker B: Mind, but that just shows his dedication.
[00:38:52] Speaker A: And his dedication, I'll say this growth. But he's dedicated.
[00:38:57] Speaker B: Listen, if you gonna be emotional, do it all the way.
[00:39:02] Speaker A: But that was a funny episode. I did love that popcorn, Poppy. I love that man, like, in the most respectful way. Cause he's got a girl, and his girl's amazing. She's so dope. And they're the best couple ever.
[00:39:13] Speaker B: I've ever. I feel like he definitely found his person.
[00:39:15] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, absolutely. And what I love for him, which I wish that a lot of people could find a. Was that he's worked really hard in his life. Now, granted, you know, he said he's done a few things and he's turned his life around and gotten to this point of being like this. This mogul, almost, of Portland, like this. This black businessman that does things so well and so many things, but he's worked really hard, made lots of sacrifices to live the life he lives, where he got to pick the partner who best suited that. And I love that for him because we did. We interviewed, like, several entrepreneurs and their preference of what type of woman they dated were all different. Like, one wanted a woman that had her own business, her own Things going on. Because distant makes the heart grow fonder, Right? Yeah. Then there's one that wants you to be your biggest cheerleader but still need space, you know, or like, things like that. Yeah. But then Ferguson popcorn Poppy was like, I want a woman who wants to be at home and just be. Because I work way too hard for you to have a boss that tells you you can't go on vacation with me when I want to go at the drop of a dime.
I worked really hard to be able to take care of things and have a person who can just enjoy it. And I think she fits that mold for him so beautifully. And they're so happy together, and I love it.
[00:40:24] Speaker B: But it also speaks to how he has created that space. Because it's very easy for a lot of men to say, you know, I don't want you to have a lot.
[00:40:32] Speaker A: That part. But can't afford to take care of him.
[00:40:34] Speaker B: Or not even just. But even if they can necessarily afford. But there is a level of toxicity that's attached with that. That doesn't prove for it to be a safe space that a woman is going to feel. Feel safe in that.
[00:40:46] Speaker A: Right.
[00:40:46] Speaker B: You know what I mean? Like, there's a level of oppression that kind of comes with it in. In other cases. So that I feel like that's definitely speaks a lot to his character, that not only am I letting you know that I'm going to financially take care of you, but I'm letting you know that I'm also going to emotionally take care of you. Like, you can trust me and be able to rest in this space because I got you.
[00:41:05] Speaker A: And then it allows her to do that for him in a way that is healthy, that he can be a soft, vulnerable man.
[00:41:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:12] Speaker A: And still be masculine. Right. So I love that for them. But I loved hearing his journey.
[00:41:17] Speaker B: Where his friends at.
[00:41:19] Speaker A: Listen, we know some of his friends, and we. They just.
[00:41:21] Speaker B: Oh, I mean, not them ones.
[00:41:22] Speaker A: No, not.
[00:41:22] Speaker B: I know them.
[00:41:23] Speaker A: Right. We need the ones that. Well, you know what's funny? He said he didn't have a lot of friends, and we kind of. Oh, yeah. And we had that moment where we were like, oh. But he was like, no, I picked it that way because I need people that are going to be in my space that are elevating me, and I'm elevating them, and we, nine times out of ten, are gonna be doing business together.
[00:41:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:39] Speaker A: So I love that for him, and I love that he's able to speak on that and talk about the sacrifices.
And he said he had to make some really strong sacrifices. Like, he has kids. And he said he wasn't. He wasn't a non active dad. He just wasn't as present as he would have liked to have been. Right. And he felt like that was a sacrifice, and he felt like his kids, you know, felt it, you know, and his relationship with his children's mom felt it. So he acknowledged that that was a sacrifice he had to make to get to where he was at. And so I love that he was able to speak on that and really kind of live in that truth. So. That was beautiful. Yeah.
Okay.
[00:42:10] Speaker B: Drink some of your drink, girl.
[00:42:11] Speaker A: I was gonna, like, throw dry because. And you know, it's an energy drink too, right?
[00:42:15] Speaker B: Is it?
[00:42:16] Speaker A: She gonna be bouncing off the walls.
[00:42:16] Speaker B: In a second, girl.
[00:42:17] Speaker A: To accompany my drink.
See, look, she said we go together real bad right now.
I don't like how this is going. Show is over. We're done.
[00:42:29] Speaker B: Only friend.
[00:42:30] Speaker A: No, no. You only get to guest host one episode. We're done.
[00:42:36] Speaker B: I got fired on my.
[00:42:37] Speaker A: You got fired on your first day and you don't even get paid for this.
[00:42:41] Speaker B: I can't.
[00:42:42] Speaker A: Kenny, take over. Just come on over here, Charlie, to get behind the camera. We're done. We're done with this.
She did that cough like them little kids and them cats be doing where their tongue becomes. Oh, my God.
I'm gonna bring it back. I'm gonna bring it back. And I'm a professional.
[00:43:00] Speaker B: Oh, my God.
[00:43:01] Speaker A: I'm a professional. She's gonna be coughing all episode now. She wanted to get off. Look, I'm gonna take over by myself. She gonna get off camera. She gonna go get herself a drink. Look, even Kenny coughing. God damn, y'. All. This is the worst episode ever.
Pausing. Yo, can you bring her a drink while you at it, too?
[00:43:21] Speaker B: Bring her a drink, because I feel like this is mine now at this point.
[00:43:24] Speaker A: At this point, yo.
[00:43:28] Speaker B: Oh, my God. I was, like, over here feeling like my head was about to explain explodes.
[00:43:34] Speaker A: Have you ever seen someone try to hold a Coughing. And her eyes got big and you could tell, like, the pressure was building up behind her forehead. I was trying my hard, yo.
Listen, about two years ago, you could. Like, we was all holding them coughs.
[00:43:47] Speaker B: No, for real. Exactly. Like, now we can safely at least get a little. You ain't got too many coughs in you, though, right?
[00:43:53] Speaker A: Right? You can do a few, but not too many, right?
[00:43:55] Speaker B: Not too much.
[00:43:56] Speaker A: Not too much.
[00:43:57] Speaker B: Not too much.
[00:43:57] Speaker A: That is great. Appreciate you, Ken. Ken. Oh, say hi to the camera, Kenny. While you here, this our producer again. This is like our third round with Kenny. I love it.
[00:44:07] Speaker B: We love him.
[00:44:08] Speaker A: We found a man, y'. All. This is like, the most consistent man in my life right now.
[00:44:11] Speaker B: Right, right. For real.
[00:44:13] Speaker A: I gotta pay him to be here. But, you know, whatever. We understand, whatever works.
[00:44:24] Speaker B: Not he's a ho.
[00:44:25] Speaker A: He did. Aren't they jiggly?
[00:44:27] Speaker B: No, but wait, do they still say jiggle?
[00:44:29] Speaker A: Since we're talking about last season, though, we had China.
Oh, yeah.
She said that she only works in the clubs, and then she wins and did a nudge.
But no, we did have a female entertainer.
[00:44:46] Speaker B: I loved that episode.
[00:44:48] Speaker A: I did, too.
[00:44:48] Speaker B: And it was.
[00:44:49] Speaker A: It was funny because in season two, I want to say, we had two male entertainers on, and they were hilarious.
But it definitely showed, like, the contrast between the, like, the. The gender professions, because it's almost more fun for men and for women. It's really like. It's like a lifestyle survival, too.
[00:45:09] Speaker B: You know what I mean? Yeah. There's typically a different story on what has led women into the industry that is different than how it is for me.
[00:45:20] Speaker A: Her mom was a stripper, and so she. Yes. So she said that she got introduced to it by another stripper, not her mom. But then when she went home and told her mom that she wanted to be one, her mom gave her all the free game ever and, like, really encouraged her and told her how to do it well. But I said all that to say that during that episode, a certain producer that will not be named, that may be behind the scenes right now, said that he'd be tricking off big time in the strip club, like, to the point to where me and Nicole, me and Nick B. Was like, we got a little something strong, a little time. Because he said he'd be throwing big bands in the club. He'd be making it rain.
I said, let's find out that he be like, okay, you know, I'm finding the club one day. I'm like, that's my podcast right there.
[00:46:01] Speaker B: No, for real.
[00:46:02] Speaker A: That's it right there. That's episode one. It's episode two.
[00:46:06] Speaker B: This is how I know that God's really not fair, because I really do feel like I would have had a different career path if I had bigger breasts.
I feel like he knows got to.
[00:46:17] Speaker A: Be chunky for a reason.
[00:46:17] Speaker B: You know, he knew to give me a scoop of booty and a couple. A couple little.
[00:46:22] Speaker A: Little nuggets.
[00:46:23] Speaker B: Couple little nuggets. Because if not, I would have been a ho ho. I know. I Would have been good at it, yo. I feel like I would have been.
[00:46:31] Speaker A: Yeah. Definitely can't clap my cheeks, but if.
[00:46:34] Speaker B: I could when I'm getting dressed in the morning. Oh, I do every now and then just to see if I still got it. I don't know what I'm gonna need these skills for, but I do. I do give myself a round of applause.
[00:46:45] Speaker A: Some role plays into some actions. One day I absolutely.
[00:46:48] Speaker B: I wanna live out. My dream is to live out that scene from Players.
[00:46:54] Speaker A: The.
[00:46:54] Speaker B: The Ronnie, whenever she went to the party, like, oh, y'. All.
Yeah, Like, I want to do that.
[00:47:00] Speaker A: Totally see that.
[00:47:01] Speaker B: I even done practice the little dance. I know I could do it.
[00:47:05] Speaker A: I think you could do it right now.
[00:47:06] Speaker B: Could I?
[00:47:07] Speaker A: You could. Absolutely.
[00:47:08] Speaker B: You know what?
[00:47:09] Speaker A: Let me be your manager.
[00:47:10] Speaker B: Oh, damn.
[00:47:11] Speaker A: Come on, let's do it.
[00:47:12] Speaker B: Let's do it.
[00:47:12] Speaker A: Get it, get it, get it, get it. And Kenny gonna throw some money on us, and then I'll pay it back to him for next season.
Damn. Get it.
[00:47:19] Speaker B: You might have.
[00:47:20] Speaker A: This cycle of life happens right here. This is perfect.
[00:47:22] Speaker B: I love this. I love this for us.
[00:47:24] Speaker A: I love this. We did. Let's talk about something healthy.
Some healthy things.
[00:47:30] Speaker B: Kelly, that was an amazing episode.
[00:47:33] Speaker A: For one thing.
[00:47:33] Speaker B: I love them as a couple. I just love their. You know, I. I hate how, like, right now, social media has, like, I always say that I don't trust couples that are online.
[00:47:43] Speaker A: Right, right, right.
[00:47:43] Speaker B: Because people have, you know, they get into the. It's influencing.
[00:47:47] Speaker A: It's.
[00:47:48] Speaker B: It's the aesthetics.
[00:47:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:47:49] Speaker B: I love that they are legitimately a happy, healthy couple on screen and off screen.
[00:47:55] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:47:56] Speaker B: You know what I mean? And they're just the way they.
[00:47:59] Speaker A: They love on each other.
So beautiful. And I love how they love on their children together.
[00:48:05] Speaker B: And they do.
[00:48:06] Speaker A: And it's so beautiful. And she talks about their village, about. Because he's, you know, he's E. 40s manager. He's big time. He's. He's his own rapper. He has his own career. He does all producer, all the things. So he travels a lot and tours. Meanwhile, she's a whole healthcare career guru in Portland.
[00:48:23] Speaker B: Right.
[00:48:23] Speaker A: Having her own things that she got going on. So she talks about how they have a village with their parents and everybody and how it's been so imperative and important in their lives. And I was like, that's such a beautiful thing. And I loved. I love to see that, like, that. I hate saying couple goals, but they are.
[00:48:38] Speaker B: If there were to be, they would be the ones that I really. I feel like, it's a safe, safe thing to say, because they really are an actual real couple. Like, I say some people make stuff look good, and they'd be back fighting like cats and dogs. That part of the camera ain't rolling.
Listen, like, Steve isn't Reese, okay?
We still.
You know, we really are. But that moment when she was talking about when she had her little stint at trying to sing background.
[00:49:06] Speaker A: Yo, I still cool Nuts and Bostic. I need y' all to send me that.
I need y' all to send me that audio file, because I need to hear this.
[00:49:21] Speaker B: Like, we need to hear this.
[00:49:22] Speaker A: We do. The world needs to hear this. Kila, you are a superstar.
[00:49:26] Speaker B: She is.
[00:49:26] Speaker A: We gonna have her go. We're gonna have her go platinum. She had a gold. She gonna go platinum. We gonna play this. Okay.
But we did have. Oh, Art Williams, celebrity barber.
[00:49:36] Speaker B: Yes, we. Art is a clown.
[00:49:38] Speaker A: He is hilarious. First of all, when he sang Bobos, the bobo song about the shoes, he had a whole jingle about bobos, right? And he sang it, and he was dead serious. And I was like, that's cute.
But it was funny because Nicole was like, Nick B. Was like, I want Bobos now. I want 55 pairs. I was like, girl, no, you don't.
[00:49:59] Speaker B: No, you really don't.
[00:50:00] Speaker A: But it was dope to hear about because I know you so well as far as, like, a woman stylist and how you get down and how the things. Things that you do and work. It was cool to hear from a barber shop owner.
[00:50:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:50:12] Speaker A: How he navigates owning the shop. Owning, like, how he balances that with his life. But then also being a celebrity barber.
[00:50:19] Speaker B: Where he has a whole other animal.
[00:50:21] Speaker A: Right. Because he says he'd be gone for, like, four months at a time. Like, in fact, I think he's gone right now filming with all the Taj. Just. Sir, you come on the show.
[00:50:30] Speaker B: Come on, come on.
[00:50:31] Speaker A: But.
And. And there's Season two of Cross is coming out in February, I think. Is it. It is. And I'm so exc.
Kind of let it slip before they'd even made the announcement. So I felt like we had, like.
[00:50:42] Speaker B: A little inside track.
[00:50:44] Speaker A: Okay.
But Art is super dope. He actually co hosted the gala with me for my.
[00:50:50] Speaker B: And he did an amazing job. He definitely brings the energy anywhere that he is.
[00:50:54] Speaker A: It was. It was super fun. We had a really great time. I think that was everybody from last. Oh, nope. We had Zach Bayer, who, my God, is a character. And actually, you were the one who pointed him out to me. The Guy. So if y' all don't know, there's a show called the Queen's Court and it is on Peacock.
[00:51:13] Speaker B: And it.
[00:51:14] Speaker A: There's two seasons. I think the first season had some people on it, but the second season, the one that we really focused on, because that was his season that he was on. So Zach is from Beaverton, Oregon, or Portland, Oregon, the surrounding areas, if you're not from here. And he actually ended up getting on this dating show where he was attempting to date K. Michelle as well as Delicious, who goes by her real name, London now.
[00:51:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:51:35] Speaker A: And then also dating was Lisa Ray.
[00:51:38] Speaker B: Lisa Ray, right.
[00:51:39] Speaker A: So those three women were dating and they had a bunch of men on the show trying to date them. And so he was one of the contestants. He was a standout character on the show.
[00:51:46] Speaker B: He was hilarious.
[00:51:47] Speaker A: He's hilarious. But we met him at this Mario party that we went to for opening for Hustle.
Side Hustle.
[00:51:57] Speaker B: No, no, that's not. It's not. Is it. It is.
[00:51:59] Speaker A: It's called.
[00:51:59] Speaker B: Is it called Side Hustle?
[00:52:00] Speaker A: I think it was.
[00:52:01] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah, I believe.
[00:52:02] Speaker A: I think it's called Side Hustle. And it's a. It's a new. It's a. Well, New world bar at this point. It's been.
[00:52:06] Speaker B: Because I know they have another location in Salem.
[00:52:08] Speaker A: Yes. So, yeah, so they were doing their grand opening and they had Mario come out. They had Kurko Bangs.
[00:52:15] Speaker B: Kirko Bangs.
[00:52:16] Speaker A: And they had another gentleman come out who.
I'm so sorry, sir. Had a good song.
Anywho, we're walking around the Club and listen, Nebula 9, our last season sponsors. Absolutely super dope, dope drinks, amazing drinks. Shout out to the folks there.
But we met him. You saw him first and you're like the guy from the show.
[00:52:38] Speaker B: I was so happy that someone knew who he was.
We love you, Zach. But Zach was like, you know me. I was like, yes. And then from then he went full fledged into celebrity visit mode. And he was like taking photos. He was like, you want to get a picture with me?
Zach is a character.
[00:52:59] Speaker A: Hilarious. And so we invited him on the show because we're like, hey, come on. Bring that energy.
[00:53:04] Speaker B: Make some good content.
[00:53:05] Speaker A: But what we did not know, which I. I realized looking back at the night, that he had said a few things that he said again on the show. And I was like, oh, yeah, you definitely were leaning on. He used to be a pastor.
[00:53:14] Speaker B: Yeah. And he led with that on the show too.
[00:53:17] Speaker A: Yes. On the actual show. So if you watch the show that we're Talking about not my show, but you watch my show too. But yeah, watch the Queen's Court show. You see that he led about being a pastor, but he, he has such this weird dichotomy that he lives where he's like a pastor but he hella outside.
[00:53:37] Speaker B: But then we'll pray for you.
[00:53:38] Speaker A: But then that's the thing about it. He will tell you to take this 9 inch bottle and then be like, but bless you, but bless you. I want you on your knees not just to pray. Right.
We gonna pray first and then we're gonna handle this.
[00:53:51] Speaker B: Right?
[00:53:52] Speaker A: Lord Jesus.
And that show was funny. He gave us a lot of inside scoop about what it's like to be on reality tv. Even like how he got picked, which was hilarious. So.
[00:54:02] Speaker B: Right.
[00:54:03] Speaker A: That was fun. I really enjoyed him especially it just.
[00:54:06] Speaker B: To me, whenever I was watching, I was like, Beaverton, like, what are you. Right. I don't know why it's so. Do you ever watch shows and whenever you see that it's someone that's like from locally, it'd be like, feel a.
[00:54:16] Speaker A: Different Oregon City, Oregon. You'd be like, right, yeah.
[00:54:20] Speaker B: Just feeling a different attachment.
[00:54:21] Speaker A: But you do. You'd be like cheering them on. You'd be like, yeah, yeah, I know. I might know you. I might have ran into you somewhere.
[00:54:26] Speaker B: And then he here, we'd randomly run into him at a restaurant.
[00:54:29] Speaker A: That was so great. I love it. But that was last season. Season was amazing. I had a really good time.
We did Listener letters. We did, you know, we did a thing called Real Reactions where we watched reels live, which was fun.
Those were interesting topics. And it was, I'm sure my, our producer was like, never again. Don't, don't ever do that again. But it was fun and we enjoyed it this season. I'm excited. We have some really great things coming up this season.
[00:54:55] Speaker B: Can I just say friends, like really quick because I gotta give you your flowers. Like give you your roses. Okay.
From starting with me being someone who was on season one, I do have to say that, like watching every season, you can see the growth.
[00:55:11] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:55:11] Speaker B: You can see the evolution on the guests and the format of the show. And you just are doing such an amazing job. I can't believe that we're at season seven. I know.
And you're just seeing that like the viewership is growing. Like you're doing all the things. So I really think that you need to celebrate yourself.
[00:55:31] Speaker A: She gonna make a thug cry.
Let me drink my drink.
[00:55:34] Speaker B: I'm so proud of you though. I Am so super proud of you. Let's get a little cheers.
[00:55:38] Speaker A: Cheers. Boom.
[00:55:38] Speaker B: Yay.
[00:55:40] Speaker A: I love it. We gotta look me in the eye, though. My good one, right?
[00:55:46] Speaker B: Oh, my God.
[00:55:47] Speaker A: Why are we like this? Oh, God. But thank you so much. I appreciate you and thank you for being, like, joining this ride with us. Like, you were really supportive in season one, and you've been there every like, so if y' all don't know, a couple times during some of the seasons that we've recorded, Charlisa has come by and been like, our on set stylist. Like, to make sure hair is on point. Like, because we learned a lesson that sometimes men. Now, we'll say our new producer is pretty good at it.
[00:56:10] Speaker B: He's very detailed.
[00:56:12] Speaker A: We'll say we've had some other male producers who don't care if your shirt's crooked. Don't care if your hair is pointed upwards. You know Ariel is showing, right? Big old rolls hanging out your pants. Like, they don't care.
They'd be like, look good. Look good. Be like, no, you didn't see this.
So it was great to have her on set a few times and also to get her input. You're like, so friends are friends and women. Women celebrate women. And I love it. And I'm your biggest fan, bitch. Yeah, we like it. We like it. Yeah.
[00:56:40] Speaker B: We're at number seven, though.
[00:56:42] Speaker A: Lucky number seven. Like, this is, like, a big deal. It is. We're getting closer to 100, and I'm so excited. I know. Last season we announced that we had surpassed 15,000 streams and views. Like, we're. We've been making lists. We've been doing some things.
[00:56:57] Speaker B: Traveling. Dirty roses.
[00:56:58] Speaker A: Oh, my goodness. We've been outside. We went to Baltimore with the wine festival again with one of our previous season guests who hosts wine Festival shout out to Uncle E out in Baltimore. Like, really dope. Amazing things happening. We've connected with other podcasters. So it's just been such a great journey. And I'm so excited and still going strong. And. And we going strong, going strong. Listen, but this season, we got some really dope people. I mean, aside from having a guest host. And we're super sad. Like, hey, we're sad that Nick B. Can't be here. We're glad that she's taking her journey. But I am excited to have you here. Like, it's fine.
[00:57:30] Speaker B: You know, I felt a lot of pressure. Cause I'm like, Nick is so dope.
[00:57:33] Speaker A: Listen, you know what I mean?
[00:57:33] Speaker B: And, like, she really has. I mean, like, 60s and strong being there. So I hope I'm doing some justice with.
[00:57:41] Speaker A: She's like, I gotta be funny. You know, I gotta be.
[00:57:44] Speaker B: So I have to make sure I brought it. And, you know, so now they're like, don't have her.
[00:57:48] Speaker A: She has some big shoes to fill in. Not because Nick b.
[00:57:50] Speaker B: Is tall 100%.
[00:57:53] Speaker A: But yes.
[00:57:53] Speaker B: And I do wear kid shoes.
[00:57:54] Speaker A: Listen, she does, though, cuz she's shorter than me, y', all, and I'm short, so.
[00:57:59] Speaker B: But this season, vertically challenged is how.
[00:58:02] Speaker A: I. I prefer to. I'm not challenged. I just. I just. I like to be picked up.
[00:58:06] Speaker B: And I know that's real. Me too. Toss me, baby.
[00:58:11] Speaker A: Okay.
But we did. We were visited for this season. We've got Callie's custom hat, wigs owner Charlise Lewis, along with one of her really dear friends, Ambrosia. So they were amazing. They're gonna be. They're gonna be talking about, like, what it's like to be in business.
[00:58:32] Speaker B: Some amazing jewels.
[00:58:33] Speaker A: Oh, my goodness. They, like, have some really great insight on new businesses and some resources out there. Like, that was one thing that I. I don't think we were expecting to hear. Yeah. From that episode. So I'm really excited for y' all to see that.
[00:58:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:58:45] Speaker A: G. Wade, he a comedian, activist, community guy, you know, father, everything. And he's gonna. Listen, y' all need to watch that because he's bringing some stuff. It's gonna talk about, like, how do you balance, like, love and laughter and. And being a dad and being all these things and being the public guy. He has his own podcast, nothing but a G thing.
[00:59:09] Speaker B: And he brings a very positive voice in wherever he is. So, yeah, that's going to be a super dope episode.
[00:59:14] Speaker A: Okay. And then, you know, we've got us doing the recap. You know? You know that part. That part. You know, we got Alexis McKinney.
[00:59:21] Speaker B: I love me some Alexis.
[00:59:23] Speaker A: Me too. Lex. In the city. So she is a local, but not local.
She's a transplant. So. And I. I don't know if other cities call them transplants, but I know for sure here we call them transplants.
[00:59:34] Speaker B: We call them transplants.
[00:59:35] Speaker A: So she's from Milwaukee and she's moved to port, and she documents, like, her life as a black woman and finding things to do in black community in Oregon, in Portland specifically. And she's a content creator. She says some amazing reels and visits to places that I've never even heard about.
[00:59:52] Speaker B: Right.
Yeah. She's highlighting a different side of Portland that most of us, especially those of us that have either been natives or have been here for a while. I've been here for a while. So there's parts of the Portland that I even feel like I take for granted. And then I'll be like, where is this at?
[01:00:09] Speaker A: Right. And she recently went kind of viral because she talked about the experience of a black person being a transplant Oregon, and what to expect. And, you know, people didn't really, like, always well received.
[01:00:21] Speaker B: And again, I feel like that was so brave of her right now in this climate, because we've got people that are just so hypersensitive, and they are, like, showing us up to attack.
[01:00:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:00:32] Speaker B: And I. I applaud her for still, like, being okay with having that transparency, even though she knew that it. It could get people that are going to celebrate her.
[01:00:42] Speaker A: Right.
[01:00:42] Speaker B: And those that are going, right, like, target her and dislike her for.
[01:00:46] Speaker A: And I think the beauty in it was that even natives were understanding to a certain extent. Like, yeah, there's a lot that. There were a lot of people mad. I ain't gonna lie.
[01:00:53] Speaker B: Yeah. They felt some people hit Dogahala.
[01:00:55] Speaker A: That. That part too. But a lot of people could be like, you know what? What? You are not the kind of person that's like, there's people that will complain about organ, and they sit inside and they don't go nowhere.
[01:01:04] Speaker B: They don't. Or they're stank. Their attitude ain't cool. So that's why you're not having a good time, because you're not pleasant to be around.
[01:01:12] Speaker A: Exactly.
[01:01:12] Speaker B: Any interaction with Lexi is just. She's just so. She's such a joy anywhere that she is.
[01:01:19] Speaker A: She.
[01:01:19] Speaker B: And she's so super cute.
[01:01:20] Speaker A: You know, she is looking like. Was it Sza?
[01:01:23] Speaker B: I know. She definitely gets me scissors.
[01:01:25] Speaker A: I love it, but I'm excited.
[01:01:27] Speaker B: Not only that, but what I have to really applaud her for, too, is that she didn't just say she's seeking community. She created community.
[01:01:35] Speaker A: Absolutely. Absolutely.
[01:01:36] Speaker B: And that's the thing, too. Like, you come and you make your mark.
[01:01:39] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[01:01:40] Speaker B: And she definitely has.
[01:01:41] Speaker A: So she's. She's. She's a good. A good template for how to move to Portland if you're born for real. I love that. That. Crystal Chanel and Chef Kiara of Kitchen Killer.
[01:01:54] Speaker B: Now, listen, another couple goals.
[01:01:56] Speaker A: Can we. Oh, my gosh. I love them. So Crystal Chanel is a marketing brand, like, kind of guru in the Portland area. She does major events. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, she does, like, a lot of the major events that happens in Portland. Aala, she's like, doing that. She curates events. She curates special intimate setting events too, as well.
And she's great with consultants, so she has lots of ideas that she can help you execute and things like that. So watching her flourish also as a transplant. Yeah, it's been amazing.
[01:02:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Both of them.
[01:02:28] Speaker A: Yes. Because they're both from Florida. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, and then Chef Kiara of Kitchen Killer is like top shelf, like, extraordinaire. Listen. And is like, no matter what event you're gonna go to, she gonna be the chef. Like, it's gonna be her.
[01:02:43] Speaker B: She's the blueprint print.
[01:02:44] Speaker A: Yeah. So she actually. She did the food for my gay list. So, I mean, she's. And she's doing it.
[01:02:49] Speaker B: She can definitely bring us a plate or something.
[01:02:51] Speaker A: She feels I'm texting and be like, I need a plate or five. Because I got kids too. But I'm excited to talk about. They just recently got married. They went on their honeymoon. They've got an amazing friend circle that supports them. So they're just.
[01:03:06] Speaker B: And again, people who I feel like have created Community.
[01:03:09] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[01:03:09] Speaker B: They've come and, you know, they've also been transparent, especially, you know, Crystal has been transparent about how hard it is to kind of like get your footing sometimes. Especially when, you know, like, let's just be real. Portland natives are not receptive to outsiders.
[01:03:26] Speaker A: Right. Especially when they come with, like, stuff when they have, like, ideas.
[01:03:29] Speaker B: You got something going on or you're like, you're, you know, you're rocking the boat a little bit. So for them to figure out how to navigate that. That.
[01:03:36] Speaker A: And yeah.
[01:03:37] Speaker B: And to show up in this and.
[01:03:38] Speaker A: They give back to Community too. So that's even, even more dope. So I love that for them. I love that they're going to be here.
[01:03:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:03:44] Speaker A: I really. I'm not even playing about the food, though. High key.
[01:03:47] Speaker B: No, for real. Because the way the little sliders that they had at the gala, I'm ashamed to admit how many I ate.
[01:03:53] Speaker A: She's walking around the tables like, you sure did. You go eat your comb.
[01:03:56] Speaker B: You're going to eat your cornbread.
[01:03:59] Speaker A: Listen, I love it. Returning Black to love with your season one co. Co guest, David Jefferson.
[01:04:08] Speaker B: The evolution is crazy. Like, to see where he was at that time.
[01:04:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:04:12] Speaker B: And to see just in business and.
[01:04:14] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:04:14] Speaker B: Relationship is crazy.
[01:04:16] Speaker A: Absolutely. So he was on the season, on the episode with Charlisa about Dave Entrepreneur. He was very single. He was very much like, I'm worried about me.
[01:04:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:04:24] Speaker A: Worried about nobody else. I'm trying to keep my peace and maintain my energy. Cuz he's one of the big ones. But the energy talk like really big to the point where you be like David energy again.
[01:04:33] Speaker B: You got a whole say energy one more time.
[01:04:36] Speaker A: But I love it. He has found love and I love it for them.
[01:04:40] Speaker B: They're such a cute couple.
[01:04:41] Speaker A: They are perfect for each other. Like absolutely. They. And they're doing this new project called Return Black to Love which is like an. An entertaining way to have these really dep. In depth conversations about black relationships that is going to be acted out in a play and then panel discussion which is dark. And they're having real actors, real playwriters and all that. So it's not like a janky performance.
[01:05:03] Speaker B: It's had a wonderful venue.
[01:05:06] Speaker A: Yeah. So it'll be dope. I'd love to hear about how they. How they met, how they maintain and they're very public. So you know.
[01:05:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:05:12] Speaker A: That's the thing.
[01:05:13] Speaker B: And that's another thing I got to give him because sometimes they be, you know, people be liking to date in private.
[01:05:19] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:05:19] Speaker B: And not even just in private, like in secret.
[01:05:22] Speaker A: Right, right, right.
[01:05:23] Speaker B: And that be like that's another level of. I feel like not honoring the relationship. I love to see him loving her out loud.
[01:05:29] Speaker A: Yes. Which is very different because he had had relationships and he's been very, very. And he mentioned on the show that he liked to keep things private.
[01:05:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Very much.
[01:05:38] Speaker A: And this relationship, they have been loud and in front of everybody. Charge. And I love it. I love it for them. And it shows that he.
This is probably something very different for him because the way that he's loving her out loud like you said. So I. I can't wait to hear all about that.
[01:05:52] Speaker B: I know.
[01:05:53] Speaker A: Cupcakes and. And comebacks with dem.
Okay.
[01:05:57] Speaker B: Champion.
[01:05:58] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:05:58] Speaker B: Because let's just such a.
Just a. A warrior. Whenever it comes to like both in business and her own personal life and certain losses that I'm sure she'll touch on.
[01:06:10] Speaker A: So we definitely, you know, we'll talk about the loss of her child. We'll talk about the grief that she experienced from ending her marriage, finding new love, loving on her kids, all while being a supreme business owner with a flourishing business.
[01:06:25] Speaker B: Demanding.
[01:06:26] Speaker A: Yes.
And with lots of things that happen in the winter. She had to flood like all kinds of stuff.
[01:06:32] Speaker B: Right.
[01:06:33] Speaker A: So she's got like this triumph. From tribulation to triumphs, from woes to wins. Like everything is like her story and she just kind of smiles through it and keeps it pushing.
[01:06:42] Speaker B: Exactly no one would know what. She's listening.
[01:06:44] Speaker A: I'm going to need you to bring me some cupcakes, too.
[01:06:46] Speaker B: No, for real. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:06:48] Speaker A: We're about to do this.
Marte Brown.
[01:06:53] Speaker B: Can I just say how much I love this man?
Like, no. No shade to his wife.
[01:06:59] Speaker A: I love his wife.
[01:06:59] Speaker B: His wife is so super dope. I love her, too. But I love him because he is. When I think of Marte, I think Northeast Portland.
[01:07:07] Speaker A: Yes. To the core.
[01:07:08] Speaker B: He is Portland. Just. He embodies the dopeness, the.
[01:07:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:07:13] Speaker B: Just the community he and I have touched before. Like, just with me, like, explaining about, like, the educational aspect of. Of, like, you know, IEPs. Because there's a lot of, like, stigma around, like, making sure that you get the support and the.
[01:07:26] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[01:07:26] Speaker B: You know, the things that you need, especially for our Brown children.
[01:07:28] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:07:29] Speaker B: You know, so I love how he shows up and he's so. I love how Marte doesn't water down his gangster Loki. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's not in a.
[01:07:37] Speaker A: Like, it's not like. It's not even like a reform gangster. It's just like, he is who he is authentically.
It's. It's like. It's almost like. It's like that. That quiet, strong, masculine presence without being overly broken.
[01:07:50] Speaker B: Like, don't play with him. But he also gonna love on you.
[01:07:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:07:53] Speaker B: Something about him, like, gives me teddy bear gangster. Right? Right.
[01:07:58] Speaker A: I love it. And I think it fits for what he does with the restorative justice for schools, with the mentorship, with the speaking. He goes to prisons and speaking, and.
[01:08:06] Speaker B: Him educating himself to see, like, how he has accomplished so much. Like, every time he just makes announcements.
[01:08:11] Speaker A: Announcements, Right.
[01:08:12] Speaker B: You know, like, just be back to. Back to back. Like, oh, by the way, I just graduated. Like, by the way, y', all. I'm about to be, you know.
[01:08:18] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:08:19] Speaker B: I've been asked to speak at this thing.
[01:08:20] Speaker A: Like, it ain't. It ain't that. I'm gonna tell you what I'm doing in advance. It's. I'm tell you what I did and how I accomplished it already.
[01:08:25] Speaker B: There we go.
[01:08:25] Speaker A: And I love that. I love that former athlete. All the things, like, just doing dope things.
[01:08:30] Speaker B: So dope.
[01:08:31] Speaker A: It's gonna be an amazing episode.
[01:08:33] Speaker B: I love you, Marte.
[01:08:34] Speaker A: Yay.
I'm excited.
And of course, we'll be doing some listening of letters. We've got some doozies this season.
One came with the picture, and I believe it at that.
And you seen the picture?
[01:08:46] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:08:46] Speaker A: I had to send the picture to her.
[01:08:47] Speaker B: Yes, it was. I saw the picture. And being as it's been a while for you, girl, you know, listen, I'm not gonna say I was mad.
[01:08:54] Speaker A: Nick B. Had been begging for a picture all season, for all six seasons, and we.
[01:08:59] Speaker B: Finally got one for her and was like, oh.
[01:09:02] Speaker A: So the story behind it is very funny.
[01:09:03] Speaker B: So I can't wait for that one.
[01:09:05] Speaker A: This season's gonna be freaking amazing. I am am so excited about all things.
Yeah. Big wins big. All the things.
[01:09:12] Speaker B: Big wins big. You know, I mean, I don't want to say losses. Big wins, big lessons.
[01:09:16] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah.
[01:09:17] Speaker B: But more importantly, just the growth.
[01:09:20] Speaker A: Absolutely. So, sis, where can they find you?
[01:09:23] Speaker B: You can find me on Instagram Milani by shadow box. You can find me on Facebook Milani vegan hair and body care. And you can also find my personal branding because, you know, I do like to show up as myself because I'm a brand. Innis.
Yes, it is Charlis the Shadow Box Harris.
Where can we find you?
[01:09:41] Speaker A: Well, before we get to me, let's talk about Nick B.
[01:09:43] Speaker B: Okay. Yes.
[01:09:44] Speaker A: Because you got to follow her journey. Absolutely. Sharing all the stories, all the content, all the the steps along the way.
And you can Follow her at NickB_ Nick B. On Instagram, and that's Nick with a K. So make sure you follow her you like and you share and you know all of her stories. But you can find me.
You can find me Lee Laree L E I G H L A R I E on every single platform.
And you can find us also at Dirty Roses Podcast, again at every single platform, dirtyrosespodcast.com you can, like, subscribe, follow, share all those wonderful things and use my code. Lee L E I G H. Get your little extra savings, y'. All. Make sure you peep out the glasses, because every episode, I'm wearing a different package pair. Go ahead.
[01:10:26] Speaker B: And those is real cute.
[01:10:27] Speaker A: Thank you.
[01:10:27] Speaker B: Ain't that real cute?
[01:10:28] Speaker A: It's giving me, like, Queen of Hearts, like Alice in Wonderland something.
[01:10:32] Speaker B: It is very much giving.
[01:10:34] Speaker A: But, yes, we will catch y' all next time. Thank you so much.
[01:10:37] Speaker B: Yes.
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